DiscoverGood NonsenseBuilding Empathy Muscle — with Michael Le
Building Empathy Muscle — with Michael Le

Building Empathy Muscle — with Michael Le

Update: 2025-11-05
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Attorney-turned-nonprofiteer Michael Le is a delightful human. The kind you simply enjoy getting to know. The kind who believes in building “empathy muscle” by planting himself in the mission work… whether or not that work appears on his job description, which we talked about, and more.


Along the way we dive into —



  • Taking big swings in our nonprofit work

  • Smashing nonprofit complacency by dreaming

  • The power of executives checking in on one another

  • And one wish Michael would make to improve the social sector


It’s practical, it’s honest, and (as always) there’s good nonsense along the way. If you know a nonprofiteer we should invite on the show, let us know at hello@goodnonsense.org!


Mentioned on this episode:


Social Impact Staff Retention project

PDS Health Foundation’s Instagram

Michael’s LinkedIn

The ProImpact Project (connecting executive directors)

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Building Empathy Muscle — with Michael Le

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